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Anyone Remember Afghanistan?

by C/O Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 12:30 AM

Rumors about the death of the fanatics in Afghanistan were premature. Local bosses and drug traffickers are entering the vacuum created by the Karzai regime. The U.S., eager to bring the message of the West to Iraq, seems to be turning a blind eye...

Anyone Remember Afghanistan?
By Zvi Bar'el Ha'aretz Daily
3-26-3

Rumors about the death of the fanatics in Afghanistan were premature. Local bosses and drug traffickers are entering the vacuum created by the Karzai regime. The U.S., eager to bring the message of the West to Iraq, seems to be turning a blind eye...
 
 
Under the Taliban government in Afghanistan, the rule of law came up with some original methods of punishment. One of them, for example, was known as "the collapsing wall." It was meant as retribution for people who were convicted of sexually abusing children. The convicted individual was placed next to a brick wall and then a tractor knocked the wall down, burying the offender under the rubble: Only God could save him.
 
In the meantime, a regime change was carried out in Afghanistan, the Taliban are gone, and reports about sexual molestation of children are again cropping up in the Afghan press. According to an "accepted custom," children are required to sing in front of adults at family celebrations, following which some adults take the children and "amuse themselves" with them. That is not the only innovation in present-day Afghanistan. Last year, under the limited rule of President Hamid Karzai, who is protected by no fewer than 200 American soldiers, Afghanistan set a new record: It became the largest producer of opium in the world.
 
The euphoria that accompanied the liberation from the Taliban regime has also been enjoyed by the drug barons and the local bosses. They are able to grow poppies with no fear of the brutal harassment that was inflicted on them by the Taliban, who banned this crop. According to a United Nations report, Afghanistan produced 3,400 tons of opium last year.
 
The satisfaction at the considerable improvement in the status of women in that country is also likely to fade when the UN presents its report on the subject, which is due out today. According to the report, the education system for women was expanded in only one city - Kabul, the capital. In Kabul, some women can work in professions that were barred to them during the Taliban era. But in the rural areas and in the other cities, women's rights remain a dead letter. Women are afraid to take jobs and hardly any girls' schools have been opened, and those that have opened are being attended by men. Similarly, the personal safety and security of women in Afghanistan is at a nadir.
 
In short, the situation in Afghanistan, according to media reports and human rights organizations, is rapidly reverting to what it was during the period of Taliban rule. For example, the "Islamic Morality Police," who operate on the streets of Kabul, are seizing men and women who do not behave according to the rules of Islam. A judge who was appointed by Karzai ruled this week that cable television must be prohibited because it is contrary to the Islamic faith. The lopping off of organs - which has again become a form of punishment in the provinces - along with public flogging by policemen and torture of prisoners no longer draw public attention. Refugees who returned home suffer discrimination, and the new constitution, which is currently being formulated, will include harsh religious elements that are little different from those that guided the Taliban authorities.
 
Request for $1.5 billion
 
Afghanistan is supposed to serve as a model of the democratization and nation-building process that the U.S. adopted when it went to war against the Al-Qaida bases in the country. Phrases such as "the liberation of Afghanistan," "the creation of representative national institutions," "human rights" and "women's rights" embellished the speeches of senior American officials, who thought that a campaign against Al-Qaida bases was not a sufficient cause to prosecute a war against Afghanistan.
 
We are now hearing the same phrases, this time in connection with the looming war against Iraq. The 16 months that have gone by since the change of regime in Afghanistan are not a sufficient period to gauge in-depth processes in the local society. Still, there are a number of important indexes that can be of use in an attempt to evaluate what we can expect to see in Iraq if the U.S. administration seeks to implement its Afghanistan policy there as well.
 
President Hamid Karzai paid a visit to Washington about a month ago, meeting with President George Bush, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell. The real reason for the visit was to ask for additional aid and security for his country. At a joint press conference with Bush, not one question was directed to Karzai. He stood next to Bush like an ornament, dressed in his by-now familiar green robe, which has become something like the logo of the new Afghanistan. None of the reporters showed any interest in him or his country.
 
It is difficult to find substantive proof for Bush's words of praise for Karzai's activity or for the American efforts to assist him. The draft foreign aid budget submitted by the administration to Congress contains not so much as one dollar for Afghanistan. In an unusual move, it was Congress itself that initiated aid of $300 million for Kabul. When an official of the State Department, testifying before the Senate Appropriations Committee, was asked why the administration was not asking for aid for Afghanistan, he replied that when the budget was drawn up, it was unclear how much money would be needed. The reply drew guffaws from the committee members. Karzai explained to members of Congress that he needs $1.5 billion this year for development purposes and another $500 million for routine administrative expenses.
 
A conference that was held last year in Tokyo to raise funds for Afghanistan produced commitments of some $4.5 billion. In practice, less than one-third of that amount was made available. Against the background of the threatened war against Iraq, Afghanistan is unlikely to receive the missing funds or get new aid. In the absence of a budget, the government will not be able to compete with the tribal chieftains, local bosses and warlords who are imposing their rule on the majority of Afghanistan's provinces without regard for the government.
 
A soldier in the new Afghan army, which was trained by the Americans and the Germans, gets a monthly wage of $50. A fighter in the ranks of the private militia of the Kandahar governor, Khan Mohammed, earns $120 a month. And this is not the only competition the government finds itself involved in. The Central Intelligence Agency pays far larger amounts to militiamen who take part in the unceasing pursuits of Al-Qaida men.
 
It turns out that not even the Americans can always buy assistance with money. In the northern city of Konduz, where local militias are operating alongside the Americans under the command of a local leader, Daoud Khan, it emerged that the militiamen, who received salaries from the Americans, concealed wanted Taliban men.
 
The direct control of the government, which consists of 32 ministries in order to placate all the factions, is confined only to the boundaries of Kabul. Attempts by Karzai to oblige the provincial governors to transfer to the central government the revenues they collect from taxes encounter total refusal.
 
Bagram deaths
 
The presence of about 10,000 American troops in Afghanistan is also starting to cause difficulties. Shooting at American targets as well as the planting of bombs and the mining of patrol roads are becoming daily occurrences. In the three weeks between January 16 and February 5, 30 incidents were recorded, involving shooting, abductions of civilians and other attacks. Posters attacking the presence of the American forces are put up in mosques overnight.
 
The report that two Afghan citizens died at the American interrogation facility located at Bagram Air Base, the U.S. military headquarters north of Kabul, this week heightened tensions and fed the anger directed at the U.S. The two died in December and their deaths were explained at the time as having been due to "natural causes." An investigative report by The New York Times exposed the truth. The paper's reporters met with family members and were given the report of a military pathologist, which classified the deaths as homicides. A spokesman for the military, responding to the findings, said that the deaths were not necessarily the result of a criminal act, as such an act requires "criminal intent."
 
Reports in the Afghan press speak of a condescending attitude toward Afghan citizens by the members of the American Special Forces in the country. According to the reports, the U.S. troops break furniture and beat up members of the family while conducting house searches. In some cases, women have been subjected to body searches. An Afghan citizen who was interviewed by the BBC warned that if another search like that is carried out, "we will show them the meaning of anger." The American troops set up checkpoints in towns and villages without knowing the local language. They are equipped with pages listing the essential words and phrases, such as "stand still," "move forward," "be careful" and the like.
 
If the presence of 10,000 American soldiers is generating a resistance movement in Afghanistan, one can conjecture what the presence of more than 250,000 soldiers will do in Iraq. The pressure that the American troops are facing comes not only from the tough missions, the terrible weather and the rugged terrain. "There is no way of knowing who is for you and who is against you here," an American soldier wrote home in a letter that was published in the United States. "Everyone is a suspect."
 
A reporter for The Christian Science Monitor who visited a Special Forces unit of 12 soldiers, situated far from any regular base, described the field security routine at the outpost. No paper contains the name of the commander, and the soldiers address one another by their first names only, without rank or surname. The concern is that if anyone's surname somehow leaks out, Islamic terrorists are liable to attack his relatives in the U.S. The soldiers described battles they conducted with Afghan troops who were supposed to be on their side.
 
At Bagram Air Base, American soldiers have scuffles every day with Afghans who show up to collect scraps of food or building materials from the base garbage dump. The soldiers frequently open fire at the civilians to scare them off and sometimes use dogs to help them. The reports in the Pakistani press, especially in the opposition papers, are even more serious, but they can be suspected of bias.
 
In December 2001, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld declared that the American armed forces would not remain in Afghanistan indefinitely. In the meantime, it is difficult to see when the U.S. troops will be able to leave the country, as every day more reports come in about the regrouping of Taliban forces and Al-Qaida activists.
 
At the same time, it is difficult to know how long the American forces will be able to withstand the hostility that is developing against them in the various provinces, even as very little is being done to rehabilitate the country.
 
"Afghanistan has already dropped off the radar screen," Senator Joseph Biden (Democrat, Delaware) said on February 26, at a meeting of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that was addressed by President Karzai. "What level of commitment will the administration display once Afghanistan winds up behind Iraq, North Korea and whatever comes next?"
 
The same comment might soon become valid in the case of Iraq. It too has factions, tribes and local bosses, and in Iraq, too, the American export of democratization is liable to end up being isolated inside army barracks.
 
 
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But don't worry...

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 12:32 AM

...the Unocal Pipline is being guarded by America's best. Isn't it reassuring to know that Unocal won't have to hurt their bottom line by having to provide their own security?
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Your Funny

by I remember Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 12:36 AM

Didn't we kick their asses before Saddams? Well, we are still kicking ass over there because we are still finding these cowards hiding out in the caves. Please leave the country Diogenese Dickhead, you are a worthless piece of shit! Why do you choose to support the wrong team?
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I take it you don't read very well?

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 12:46 AM

The point is - that the Bush Junta going in to this Afghanistan quagmire said it was not about the "Pipeline". However, as soon as the Pipeline was secure and the shill from Unocal - Hamid Karzai - was installed it suddenly disappeared as it was morphed into the War on Iraq. The U.S. is, under Bush, once again not following through. We went in and trashed their country and then bailed out once again.

Sheesh - gotta draw a fucking diagram. (This Side Up.)
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Diogenes

by Bush Admirer Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 5:15 AM

I see you still have your head in the sand on the subject of Afghanistan Diogenes.

Please see your analyst for a 'reality therapy' session.

And the 'Bush Junta' stuff is getting tiresome. You keep using bogus phrases like that as if they'd become true through constant usage. They won't. There is no 'Bush Junta" and there never was. Bush is just an outstanding President giving the job his best. The same is true for Hamid Karzai by the way. These are both guys who love their country and are giving their all for the best interests of their citizens.
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It's the truth

by krankyman Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 7:33 AM

The Bush Crime Family(is that a better moniker for you Bush Ass-mirer) just inserted another puppet at the head of a country that they could care less about(except for the presence of a pipeline). And the Afghani's have recently reinstalled the Minister of Virtue. All that talk about democracy is plain B.S(Bushie Speak). Get your burka's out again,and get ready for more oppression. And why doesn't bush go love another country that he can screw up(how many more unemployed were created this week?).
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Simple

by Simple Simon Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 8:14 AM

So, are you suggesting that we should convert these infidels by the sword, Krankyman? That'll put a stop to all their ignorant Muslim ways! Convert 'em to good Episcopalians so Krankyman will finally be convinced that his government did something good.
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simple is simple

by krankyman Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 8:26 AM

That is how you define how our country does good by bombing the crap out of a pipsqueak nation? Little Bushie does a grand disservice to the gullible suckers who fight our wars by sending them to some god forsaken country on the one hand and then cuts veteran benefits by billions of dollars over the next ten years in the latest budget. Oh and by the way all religions suck when used by Bush,Osama,or any one else as a pretext for oppression or societal control or war. Yea "simple" describes you perfectly.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 8:32 AM

You're such an infant.

First of all, you couldn't give a fiddler's fart for the members of the military, active or reserve, current members or veterans, so hang it up. The only veterans you like are washed up old pukes who held non-combat jobs (Diogenes, Sheepdog) who now bite back at the hand that fed them.

Second of all, why don't you ask the Afghanis what they think of the change in Afghanistan since the Americans liberated them? And be sure to ask the women, you pinhead.

This president does what he says. Get used to it. Because you're going to have to deal with it for another 5 years.
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indicative of this shithead's spoiled immaturity

by mediawatcher Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 8:43 AM

simplesemen wants the military to defend his interests and yet
has the gall to chastise veterans who speak out against US
atrocities.

hey semen, if you feel that way get off your ass in front of your
computer, put away your kiddy porn, join the service and go
fight your own goddamned war!!
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Simple

by Simple Simon Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 8:45 AM

Hey, I happen to love kiddy porn and I'm not ashamed of it.
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Simple

by Simple Simon Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 8:47 AM

If you haven't been paying attention, mediawatcher, (and you haven't) - I'm already in the service, and have been for more than 14 years.

So shaddap.

And another thing mr-making-my-lattes-at-Starbucks, I haven't said ANYTHING about veterans who have spoken out about so-called 'atrocities'. I'm talking about washed-up sell-outs like Sheepdog and Diogenes - who speak out about alien invasions and Republican-Nazi-Catholic connections.
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Psymon Sez

by Diogenes Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 9:42 AM

Psymon thinks he's a Soldier cuz in the Reserves he gets to go camping with his Troop one Weekend a Month and gets to go to the Jamboree for 2 Weeks every year. It was always fun when I was on Active Duty that the Reserves would show up and spend 2 weeks partying and raiding the PX for whatever stuff they could carry in their luggage when they went back to being semi-civilians. I notice that he did not mobilize - of course PsyOps Units are REMFs anyway so it would not be like he would be in danger of having to dodge enemy fire. (If he is even in the Reserves - despite all of his covering protestations.) Oh and Psymon don't ever try to claim to be a Combat Soldier - you taught me a lesson and I am now keeping a "Clipping File" for whenever I need it.

Psymon just get's his dander up over me and Sheepdog because it takes away his ability to accuse everybody who opposes this war of being unwilling to stand in Defense of Flag and Freedom. As always he mistakes homogeneity of thought, lockstep Goose-Stepping Blind Loyalty for whatever scoundrel in office wants to do. Particularly if they are a Republikan.

As is always the case Psymon's reasoning boils down to:

"I am always right even when I am wrong."

"If you disagree with my unreasoning, lickspittle, subservient, slavish, support for anything my Fuhrer says or does then you are a traitor."

Of course he never says traitor to what. Dissent and the right to hold a contrary opinion is one of the most American things there is. A difference of Opinion was what this country was founded on.

"I love my country but I fear my Government."
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Simple

by Simple Simon Thursday, Mar. 27, 2003 at 11:07 AM

I anyone here into kiddy porn? I prefer little boys aged 5-13. I just love those pretty little boys!
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