Working on this new server in php7...
imc indymedia

Los Angeles Indymedia : Activist News

white themeblack themered themetheme help
About Us Contact Us Calendar Publish RSS
Features
latest news
best of news
syndication
commentary


KILLRADIO

VozMob

ABCF LA

A-Infos Radio

Indymedia On Air

Dope-X-Resistance-LA List

LAAMN List




IMC Network:

Original Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: ambazonia canarias estrecho / madiaq kenya nigeria south africa canada: hamilton london, ontario maritimes montreal ontario ottawa quebec thunder bay vancouver victoria windsor winnipeg east asia: burma jakarta japan korea manila qc europe: abruzzo alacant andorra antwerpen armenia athens austria barcelona belarus belgium belgrade bristol brussels bulgaria calabria croatia cyprus emilia-romagna estrecho / madiaq euskal herria galiza germany grenoble hungary ireland istanbul italy la plana liege liguria lille linksunten lombardia london madrid malta marseille nantes napoli netherlands nice northern england norway oost-vlaanderen paris/Île-de-france patras piemonte poland portugal roma romania russia saint-petersburg scotland sverige switzerland thessaloniki torun toscana toulouse ukraine united kingdom valencia latin america: argentina bolivia chiapas chile chile sur cmi brasil colombia ecuador mexico peru puerto rico qollasuyu rosario santiago tijuana uruguay valparaiso venezuela venezuela oceania: adelaide aotearoa brisbane burma darwin jakarta manila melbourne perth qc sydney south asia: india mumbai united states: arizona arkansas asheville atlanta austin baltimore big muddy binghamton boston buffalo charlottesville chicago cleveland colorado columbus dc hawaii houston hudson mohawk kansas city la madison maine miami michigan milwaukee minneapolis/st. paul new hampshire new jersey new mexico new orleans north carolina north texas nyc oklahoma philadelphia pittsburgh portland richmond rochester rogue valley saint louis san diego san francisco san francisco bay area santa barbara santa cruz, ca sarasota seattle tampa bay tennessee urbana-champaign vermont western mass worcester west asia: armenia beirut israel palestine process: fbi/legal updates mailing lists process & imc docs tech volunteer projects: print radio satellite tv video regions: oceania united states topics: biotech

Surviving Cities

www.indymedia.org africa: canada: quebec east asia: japan europe: athens barcelona belgium bristol brussels cyprus germany grenoble ireland istanbul lille linksunten nantes netherlands norway portugal united kingdom latin america: argentina cmi brasil rosario oceania: aotearoa united states: austin big muddy binghamton boston chicago columbus la michigan nyc portland rochester saint louis san diego san francisco bay area santa cruz, ca tennessee urbana-champaign worcester west asia: palestine process: fbi/legal updates process & imc docs projects: radio satellite tv
printable version - js reader version - view hidden posts - tags and related articles


View article without comments

bin Laden tape: Bush league caught in another web of lies

by Lie detector Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2003 at 2:24 PM

No wonder they're so cautious about compromising intelligence sources - they've invented time travel!



At the time Colin Powell was quoting from what he said was a transcript of "Osama bin Laden" obligingly declaring a connection between Iraq and al Qaida, al Jazeera had not yet received the tape (CNN and other sources). CNN also says: "Word of the tape first surfaced when U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell told a Senate panel earlier Tuesday that he had reviewed a transcript of the message."

Meanwhile, the Associated Press quotes an al Jazeera editor as follows:

"Yasser Thabet, a broadcast editor at Al-Jazeera, said the tape appears to be authentic because the television station got it through the same means as previous bin Laden statements. He did not elaborate. When you listen to the tape, you can tell it's Osama bin Laden's voice," Thabet said.

Okay, so what we have is al Jazeera verifying the tape because they got it through their usual (unspecified) source, but Colin Powell having a transcript (translated and everything) before al Jazeera even received it. Hmmmm ... in the past it's taken days for the government to do an "accurate" translation, and these guys not only beat that record, but produced it before anyone else knew the tape existed. Pretty good! No wonder they're so cautious about compromising intelligence sources - they've invented time travel!

Another strange thing: The AP report quotes broadcast editor Yasser Thabet as saying "When you listen to the tape, you can tell it's Osama bin Laden's voice," yet further down in the story, it quotes Chief editor Ibrahim Hilal: "He said the station was not sure it would air all of the tape, saying the quality was not very good."

I guess poor Osama must really be on his uppers and not able to afford $12.95 plus tax for a cassette recorder capable of making good quality recordings. Come to think of it, wasn't the last tape (the one declared a phony by that Swiss audio lab) "poor quality" too? How 'bout takin' up a collection so Osama can at least get what every kid in the "civilized" world has at least two of? And what's the stock market symbol for the company making the time machine? I wanna invest!

********************

THE CNN STORY:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/11/powell.binladen/index.html

Al-Jazeera to broadcast bin Laden message

WASHINGTON (CNN) --After initially denying its existence, the Qatar-based Arab satellite news network Al-Jazeera broadcasting said it would air an audio message Tuesday from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, calling on Muslims to "unite in defending the Iraqi people."

Word of the tape first surfaced when U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell told a Senate panel earlier Tuesday that he had reviewed a transcript of the message. "(Bin Laden) speaks to the people of Iraq and talks about their struggle and how he is in partnership with Iraq," Powell said at the congressional hearing.

Al-Jazeera had initially dismissed Powell's claim as rumor.

"This nexus between terrorists and states that are developing weapons of mass destruction can no longer be looked away from and ignored. As the president has said, 9/11 changed things," Powell said.

"We have a regime led by Saddam Hussein who has not accounted for all the weapons of mass destruction they've had in the past, who continues to pursue them. And we have non-state terrorist actors -- such as al Qaeda led by Osama bin Laden -- that would do anything to get their hands on this kind of material."

Powell's remarks come as the Bush administration presses the argument that Iraq's military capability and alleged links to terrorist groups constitute an imminent threat that requires decisive action by the United Nations.

He made the comments after being asked why containment would not work as a diplomatic means in dealing with Iraq.

Powell said the international community has tried to no avail to contain Saddam for the past 12 years. President Bush has threatened military action against Iraq if it does not disarm itself of alleged weapons of mass destruction, chemical, biological or nuclear.

Iraq has denied it has weapons of mass destruction or links with al Qaeda.

As Powell was testifying in front of the Senate Budget Committee, CIA director George Tenet and FBI director Robert Mueller were in a nearby hearing room, briefing the Senate Intelligence Committee on reports that the al Qaeda terrorist network is planning attacks in the United States and the Arabian Peninsula.

Tenet said two dozen members of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, which he called "indistinguishable" from al Qaeda, and two senior planners have been "operating freely" in Baghdad.

"There is a presence in Baghdad," Tenet said. (Full story at link above)

****************

THE AP STORY:

(AOL News page)

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (Feb. 11) - The Al-Jazeera Arab satellite station broadcast a new audio statement from Osama bin Laden on Tuesday in which he expresses solidarity with the Iraqi people.

Chief editor Ibrahim Hilal told The Associated Press the 16-minute tape was a message to Iraqis to remain steadfast in the face of a potential American attack.

Yasser Thabet, a broadcast editor at Al-Jazeera, said the tape appears to be authentic because the television station got it through the same means as previous bin Laden statements. He did not elaborate.

''When you listen to the tape, you can tell it's Osama bin Laden's voice,'' Thabet said.

Ahead of the broadcast, a headline at the bottom of the screen during regular programming Tuesday night read, ''Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden calls on all Muslims to unite to defend the Iraqi people, in an audio message Al-Jazeera will broadcast later.''

Hilal said that on the tape, bin Laden urged Muslims not to cooperate with the U.S against Iraq, saying any Muslim who cooperates with America against another Muslim is an apostate.

He said the station was not sure it would air all of the tape, saying the quality was not very good.

Secretary of State Colin Powell told a Senate panel Tuesday that what appears to be a new statement from Osama bin Laden shows why the world needs to be concerned about Iraqi ties to terrorism.

Powell said he read a transcript of ''what bin Laden - or who we believe to be bin Laden'' was to say on Al-Jazeera, ''where once again he speaks to the people of Iraq and talks about their struggle and how he is in partnership with Iraq.''

The last Bin Laden tape aired on Nov. 12 on Al-Jazeera. Bin Laden, in the statement, promised new terrorist attacks.

AP-NY-02-11-03 1511EST

Copyright 2003 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


thanks lie detector

by 82784-0 Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2003 at 3:24 PM

interesting analysis -- appreciated!

will be looking into it as well
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


NOT THAT THIS WILL BE COVERED AGAIN BY THE "SENSATIONAL" US MEDIA, BUT...

by one TAXED MAN.... Wednesday, Feb. 12, 2003 at 11:18 PM

Friday, 29 November, 2002, 05:40 GMT
Bin Laden tape 'not genuine'
Osama Bin Laden
------------------
There has been speculation about Bin Laden's fate
Researchers in Switzerland have questioned the authenticity of the recent audio recording attributed to Osama Bin Laden.

A team from the Lausanne-based Dalle Molle Institute for Perceptual Artificial Intelligence, Idiap, said it was 95% certain the tape does not feature the voice of the al-Qaeda leader.

It could be an impostor

Samy Bengio, voice recognition expert

US intelligence officials have said they believe the recording - broadcast on the Arabic al-Jazeera television channel earlier this month - was almost certainly that of Osama Bin Laden.

If verified, it would provide the first evidence in a year that Bin Laden survived the American-led bombing campaign in Afghanistan.

Prudence--

The review of the tape was commissioned by France-2 television and its findings were presented by the institute's director, Professor Herve Bourlard.

Mr Bourlard said the institute had compared the voice on the tape with some 20 earlier recordings allegedly made by Bin Laden.

"It could be an impostor," said one of Mr Bourlard's colleagues at Idiap, Samy Bengio, quoted by the French news agency AFP.

He said the system they had used was difficult to tamper with - the al-Jazeera tape was sufficiently different from other Bin Laden recordings as to raise doubts.
-------------------------
(excerpt from bbc)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2526309.stm
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


Islamic Bullshit

by Bush Admirer Thursday, Feb. 13, 2003 at 5:19 AM

bin Laden's remains are most likely strewn around Tora Bora where he was blown to smithereens by US bombs.

Fanatic Islamic terrorists are trying to keep the faithful inline by putting together fake audio tapes.

If bin Laden really were alive, you can bet we'd be seeing his ugly face on Al Jazeera
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


I Agree - another phoney tape

by Diogenes Thursday, Feb. 13, 2003 at 10:41 AM

Proof that the tape is phoney is the way the Bushistas are trumpeting it loudly.

They were so eager to jump on it that Colin Powell had a complete translation before Al-Jazeera even got the tape.

How's that for efficiency?
Report this post as:
Share on: Twitter, Facebook, Google+

add your comments


© 2000-2018 Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Unless otherwise stated by the author, all content is free for non-commercial reuse, reprint, and rebroadcast, on the net and elsewhere. Opinions are those of the contributors and are not necessarily endorsed by the Los Angeles Independent Media Center. Running sf-active v0.9.4 Disclaimer | Privacy