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9/11 as a False Flag Operation (WBAI Radio, NYC // MP3)

by little bird Friday, Jan. 03, 2003 at 1:25 AM

trying to make sense of 9-11 // an mp3 file of a show aired on WBAI. Runs for about 57 minutes

9/11 as a False Flag...
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WBAI's "Taking Aim," which airs on Tuesdays at 5pm Eastern, did a show focusing on the September 11 attacks as a "false flag" operation, an operation where blame for an event is placed on a false target.  They review important mainstream media stories and present the case.  The show originally aired September 10, 2002.

It's not important if you believe there is complicity, or a full false flag operation.  You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist!  However, it is very important to recognize that there is a mountain of contradictory elements within the official story.  The official story simply can't be the truth.  That much is certain, no two ways about.

Therefore, any specific conspiracy theory is not really all that important, but the study of the event itself is something that no one can discredit, not Mr. Corn (ball) at The Nation, nor anyone else.  The simple truth is that we are being lied to, and that we only have part of the story. 

In this context, the "Taking Aim" show is interesting.  Give it a listen.  

It was rebroadcast on Guns & Butter, which now has a 2pm Pacific timeslot on KPFA.  You can hear it over the Internet in real time.  Contact them at their website for CDs.

  • Click here to download mp3

  • Click here if you need a streaming version that will work if your browser/player doesn't automatically offer streaming as an option on an mp3 file

Reference links: 

  • http://www.gunsandbutter.net

  • http://www.kpfa.org/1pg_grid.htm

  • http://www.wbai.org/parts/grid.htm

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the corporate media version of 9/11 makes no sense in light of the hard facts

by GRINGO STARS Friday, Jan. 03, 2003 at 3:12 AM
gringo_stars@attbi.com

Interesting article about 9/11 as a false flag operation:

http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian/STF/stranger-than-fiction.htm

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident."

-- Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860

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Hey folks, look at what I found.

by Sheepdog Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 3:20 AM

This is still a fine description of events surrounding

the first and second WTC 'attacks'.

Well referenced by specific documentation, available in the

reference library.

Do you think that TV is mentally debilitating?

These are not dots to connect, this is a freeway.

All it will take people, is the idea that we are being screwed so

righteously, and the cringing criminals in charge that are scared to

death that the questions will be asked, will shit themselves to death

Then say...

THIS is what 13 Trillion dollars of defense spending since W.W.II gives us.

ENDLESS WAR.

That’s a poor substitute for ‘ life, liberty. and the pursuit of happiness’

Hey, anyway, check out this link from Portland.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/topic/911investigation/

***

9-11 WE KNOW WHAT DIDN’T HAPPEN

Time for a peoples court.

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The most disturbing thing to me...

by Eric Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 8:04 AM

is how you liberals continuously accuse your own elected officials of acting outside of our own best interests and imply that they're guilty of treason. Does anyone else see a problem with that besides me??

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Yes, Eric...

by daveman Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 9:01 AM

...I wonder how many of these cries of "Treason!" are politically motivated.

I'm guesstimating 100%.

"You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist!"

But it sure helps.

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Exactly daveman!

by Eric Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 9:32 AM

Politics schmolitics. That's exactly what people should realize when they visit forums like this one. These are the spoiled, sore-losers of the last elections. They're as disingenuine as a cubic zirconium, and not nearly as deceptive.

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9/11

by brigg Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 9:53 AM

As soon as we find conclusive evidence as to what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa and how the HELL the Tampa Bay Buccaneers ever won a Super Bowl, this twin tower thing is my next interest. OK, probably a few rounds of golf after the Hoffa and Buc mysteries come to light. But then I'm right on it.

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Yeah brigg...

by Eric Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 10:48 AM

Me too. Right after I manage to become a scratch player, I'll give you a hand researching that Tampa Bay thing. Whoda thunk it.

BTW, speaking of golf, when you wanna go hit a few?

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presto

by Uncle Meat Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 12:44 PM

presto...
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9/11 has been the rationale for a policy of perpetual war, the radical abridgement of our constitutionally-guaranteed liberties, and the barking chorus of television screamers who shout down all dissent as "treason." Yet Americans have no right to know how or why it happened.

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/05/264237.shtml

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Uh yeah

by fresca Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 12:51 PM

"9/11 has been the rationale for a policy of perpetual war"

As well it should be.

Of course.

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A Saudi Sept. 11

by Ffutal Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 1:10 PM

Will May 12 bring about a Saudi epiphany the way Sept. 11 did for America? It's blindingly clear that the Saudis, like pre-Sept. 11 Americans, were complacent about the threat of terror in their own country. Yesterday's Washington Post reports that the car bombers who murdered at least 25 people, including at least seven Americans, "were part of an al Qaeda cell whose members fought a gun battle last week with Saudi authorities before escaping arrest."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52134-2003May13.html

The Associated Press reports that "the United States sought futilely to get security tightened around western residential compounds" before the attacks. Robert Jordan, the American ambassador to Riyadh, tells CBS's "The Early Show" that the U.S. sought better security "on several occasions." He adds: "We continue to work with the Saudis on this, but they did not, as of the time of this tragic event, provide the additional security we requested."

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/05/14/national0848EDT0520.DTL

The Washington Post reports that some American officials think the attacks will "have the paradoxical effect of alerting Saudi leaders to the threat posed by the terrorist organization al Qaeda. . . . Bush administration officials said they hope that Monday night's attacks on residential compounds will serve as a 'wake-up call' to the Saudi government, which has tended to view the war on terrorism as primarily an American, rather than a Saudi, problem."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51841-2003May13.html

There are signs that such optimism is warranted. Although Prince Saud, the foreign minister, denied having received a request to step up security, he does acknowledge that it was inadequate. The AP quotes him telling a news conference today: "The fact that the terrorism happened is an indication of shortcomings, and we have to learn from our mistakes and seek to improve our performance in this respect."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A53977-2003May14.html

Saud adds that the terrorists "will regret what they have done because they have turned this country into one fist aimed at putting an end to this heinous wound in the body of this nation so that it won't return." The mixed metaphor notwithstanding, who can but cheer the sentiment? And I can find little to disagree with in this Arab News editorial:

It goes without saying that those responsible, those who poisoned the minds of the bombers, those who are planning to become bombers, must be tracked down and crushed--remorselessly and utterly. But crushing them will not be enough. The environment that produced such terrorism has to change. The suicide bombers have been encouraged by the venom of anti-Westernism that has seeped through the Middle East's veins, and the Kingdom is no less affected. Those who gloat over Sept. 11, those who happily support suicide bombings in Israel and Russia, those who consider non-Muslims less human than Muslims and therefore somehow disposable, all bear part of the responsibility for the Riyadh bombs.

We cannot say that suicide bombings in Israel and Russia are acceptable but not in Saudi Arabia. The cult of suicide bombings has to stop. So too has the chattering, malicious, vindictive hate propaganda. It has provided a fertile ground for ignorance and hatred to grow.

http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=26165

The Arab News also carries a report from the streets of Riyadh titled "Saudis Call for Reforms, Tolerance." Here's the best quote:

"Disgruntled Saudis will have to change their attitude and they will have to learn as how to integrate themselves into the mainstream of society, especially in this era of globalization," said Anees Al-Qedaihy, a local journalist.

Al-Qedaihy said that the Saudis will have to understand how to promote cosmopolitan culture and how to work closely with foreigners, both Asian and Westerners.

http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=26160

If the Saudis are coming to grips with reality, some Democrats are defying it. The Washington Times quotes Sen. Bob Graham as asserting that the bombing "could have been avoided if you had actually crushed the basic infrastructure of al Qaeda" and that "al Qaeda has regenerated" because America has paid too much attention to Iraq. Graham opposed the Iraq war resolution last year because it didn't spread American resources thin enough; he also wanted to authorize the president to attack groups like Hezbollah.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030514-377823.htm

The Jerusalem Post's Barry Rubin does draw one plausible, albeit indirect, connection between Iraq's liberation and the Saudi attacks:

A seeming irony of the attack is that it came after the announcement that US forces will withdraw from Saudi Arabia over the coming months. They are no longer needed both because of the overthrow of Saddam Hussein in neighboring Iraq, and due to the fact that the US has new bases in other Gulf states, especially Qatar.

Of course, experience has shown as with Israel's experiences regarding both Lebanon and the Palestinians that a desire to withdraw can trigger terrorism as surely or more surely than a desire to stay. In this case, the terrorists could falsely but credibly for some of their Arab audience claim the withdrawal as a victory for them.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/A/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1052837478319

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pasta

by taser Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 2:20 PM

Israel had foreknowledge of 9/11 – that was

Carl Cameron's explosive contention, made

last year in a blockbuster series of reports on

Fox News exposing an Israeli spy ring in the

U.S. New evidence confirms his story – and

points to a rather ominous conclusion….

Reporting the round-up and deportation of

scores of Israeli agents – masquerading as "art

students" – Cameron noted last December that

several were "active Israeli military" and the

rest had skills that one normally associates

with spies: electronic interception, explosives,

and special operations. Several failed

polygraph tests when asked if they were

engaged in "surveillance activities against and

in the United States." Aside from trying to

penetrate U.S. government facilities, this

network, which went into high gear in the

months prior to 9/11, was also watching the Al

Qaeda terrorists, according to Cameron:

"There is no indication that the Israelis were

involved in the 9-11 attacks, but investigators

suspect that the Israelis may have gathered

intelligence about the attacks in advance, and

not shared it. A highly placed investigator

said there are – quote – 'tie-ins.' But when

asked for details, he flatly refused to describe

them, saying, – quote – 'evidence linking

these Israelis to 9-11 is classified. I cannot tell

you about evidence that has been gathered.

It's classified information.'

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something else

by George Mason Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 2:34 PM

FBI Chief Robert Mueller admitted on September 20 and on September 27 that at this time

the FBI has no legal proof to prove the true identities of the suicidal hijackers

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/hoax.html

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OneEyedMan

by KPC Friday, May. 16, 2003 at 5:58 PM

Caducada:"9/11 has been the rationale for a policy of perpetual war

As well it should be. "

Yeah...for sleezy synchophants like you, a severe hangnail on Poppy's left big toe is enough rationale for a policy of perpetual war.

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my friends are all angry

by George Mason Monday, May. 19, 2003 at 12:57 PM

i can't believe this nation has not begun to fight

this criminal media cover up.

Bush must think there isn't going to be the next

election. no one i talk to has any faith in this idiot.

nobody can afford their rent anymore or gas.

forget about a good job ( I'm an electro-mech tech ) and

these temp jobs get cheaper as they get fewer.

people are pissed. i'm pissed.

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