Michael Ruppert gave a talk on October 6, 2002 in Sebastopole, California.
The attached MP3 file is a 1-hour radio program based on an edited-down part of
that talk (Ruppert's talks are usually hours long). The producers: Guns &
Butter. You can check out their website here: http://www.gunsandbutter.net
here for download
here for streaming version