Reported today is the death of Liberal Senator Paul Wellstone with his wife and child. Dead in plane crash fying to campaign event. Crash two miles from runway.

Doeas any conspiracy theorist have anything going on this? Jfk Jr. dead in plane crash, Mel Carnahan of Missouri dead in plane crash to (note running against Ashcroft at the time)/ is this a pattern? Why don't Republican assholes die in plane crashes/ Am i wrong here/ Do they have a compact with "their god".

Yeha it sure looks like he was assasinated. The media reports freezing rain/drizzle but doppler radar shows the area as clear. Why would they need to lie?

what kind of wierdo would make light of this kind of tragedy?

I'd never agree with Wellstone's politics, but my heart goes out to the souls lost on that flight.

I think it is silly to jump to conspiracy conclusions. Save the skepticism until after the man is remembered for his accomplsihments,

No one's making light of it, T-Mex. It is a tragedy and we should all remember, whether we agreed with him or not, that Paul Wellstone was a man who lived the courage of his convictions. As to the question of whether foul play was involved, it's purely speculative at this point, but Paul Wellstone definitely had enemies, and I certainly hope that authorities are able to conduct a thorough and unimpeded investigation. Asking this question isn't making light of the Senator's untimely death; rather, it is honoring him, to leave no stone unturned, and to ask the boldest possible questions.

I agree that it is just plain counterproductive to be crying conspiracy theory until after thourough investigations are attempted

Where does this paranoia go right now? Its also disrespectfull to be wishing death on anyone because of party affiliation.

but to suggest that JFK Jr's death was also part of a vast right wing conspiracy because of his political status brings this post to the level of sick humor!

"conspiracy reality" is a phrase donna warren taught me. it applies to the cia dealing in crack (fact) or the bush administration throwing the kuwaiti ambassador's daughter on the floor of the house to lie about saddam's elite guard throwing babies out of incubator's (and oh she did...). these are verifiable, vast right wing conspiracies.
i understand its wrong to leap to conclusions, but this senators political enemies have a long history of underhanded tyranny.

my heart does go out to all of his loved ones, as well as all of us who considered him one of the only voices of concience in the democratic party. we have lost a leader in the truest sense of the word. indeed, we have lost a hero. i belive to leap to conclusions this early might be hurtful. let us not forget srv died right near there under similar circumstances 12 years ago. but still... blossoming anti-war movement, repealing of civil rights, fbi foul play, leftist leaders dying... i think my mom used these kind of events to describe the 60's to me.

The Pentagon crash was really all about murdering Barbara Olson, the conservative commentator.

And the WTC2 crash was just to kill Jasper Baxter, prominent Philadelphia Democrat (and African American) who was giving a presentation on the 102d floor when American Airlines flight 11 crashed into it!!!

I guess what I meant to say is contained in "conspiracy reality" by josh. I guess right, left, whatever- death is something to mourn. It's sad that we (I) have so much distrust in our culture.

The US is filled with distrust because of a presidential coup backed by the supreme court in 2000. (and you do realise that the Supreme Court decision said it would have no precendent in future disputes. In other words, it would be binding only to that particular decision. That should tell you alot right there. It was a political "vote" turning in favors. It was not based on law.)

Florida Secretary of State, Katherine Harris--also chair of the Florida elect W committee, deliberately purged the voting polls of 50,000 people in Florida of whom only 3000 should have been taken off the rolls.

Coprorate shennanigans, back alley deals, spewing false information, controlled mass media, voter fraud, tax cuts for the rich, raided pension funds, etc etc etc. So yeah, there are going to be alot of conspiracy theories about Senator Wellstone's death, because the truth is, there is NO reason to trust the SOB's currently in the White House.

Conspiracy theories not to laugh about--though plenty of folks were only a few months ago:

"There was no significant intellligence prior to 9-11"--tell that to the FBI agent who testified in front of congress his warnings and advice were ignored on one of the pilots they chose NOT to monitor.

"California gas prices-Davis was over exagerating. Enron had nothing to do with price fixing." Gee whiz what do you know, David Fabian who worked at Enron finally came forward and said yup. Its true.

"Sadaam Hussein might have nukes, see, the report says so." Funny, the report from the International Atomic Energy Agency says otherwise.

"The US will have an enormous surplus." Ooops. Bush meant to say $159 billion deficit.

"There was no need to do a manual recount of votes in FLorida. There was no wide spread fraud." Funny, Florida just had to settle with the NAACP--and Florida lost.

"Cheney's meetings with energy officals to determine policy were all above board." Yeah, right. Then turn the documents over to the GAO.

There is a lot out there building mistrust and distrust. And the folks currently occupying the White House are THE NUMBER ONE REASON.

I think it's very clear what is going on here. The Dems realized that mr. wellstone was very possibly going to lose. This is simply unsatisfactory, so they offed him. Not only does that get him out of the picture, but it also drives the "base" into a voting frenzy. Let's face it- the leftist brain is driven by emotion- whether it's sympathy for that poor family that plunged to their deaths, or anger at those greedy republicans.
Conspiracy? Yeah. You all had just better be careful which stones you turn over in your ravenous attempts to tarnish Bush.

Shit just doesn't tarnish!

It seems if there is any conspiracy, it is the dems that have more to gain, because he was behind in the polls

Did anyone think that it actually might be a left wing conspiracy? Whose funeral turned into a political rally? Which political party is edging ahead now that Mondale has taken Wellstone's place? Who has a longer list of curious death's around him? Our current president or the keynote speaker at Wellstone's funeral (Clinton)? Have you noticed that Dems are all jumping on the 'spirit of Wellstone' bandwagon? Wellstone is doing more for the Dems crusade for majority dead than he did alive.

The current president has 3000 suspicious deaths around him, he's kinda hard to top.

That's like suggesting that the someone in King's camp had MLK offed because of the impact on history.
That is what being a martyr is. " Wellstone had been locked in a tight re-election campaign against Republican challenger Norm Coleman and had begun to pull away in recent weeks," from TIME.com.
So, why Martyr one of your own? They already had that in Missouri.

He wasn't one of their own. He was a far lefty who embarrassed the party's attempt to appeal to more mainstream voters. He didn't follow the DNC's line. Ridding themselves of Wellstone and replacing him with a compliant token (to be replaced 'for reasons of health' much like Lautenberg) would obviously benefit the Democrats. And despite what TIME might have said, he was in a race that was too close to call. The Democrats will not tolerate losing their (illegitamate) control of the Senate.

But I think his plane just crashed.

Unh-hunh. The Democrats murdered Wellstone, OK sure. I suppose monkeys have the power to levitate when you aren't looking too. Tell me, how much did you pay for that tinfoil hat of yours?

The Democrats are not a bunch of Wellstone fans. His message is lost on the majority of Americans. The new Democratic party (Clinton/McAuliffe) has made strides to appear more moderate and to shelve the liberal label. Wellstone's pricipled positions rankled with the leadership. He didn't play ball when they told him. When they realized they would get hammered on being anti-war they voted for it, but not Wellstone. As a result, his opponent had successfully tarred him as soft on war and Iraq. This endangered his seat.

And let's look at the crash itself. Who had access to the aircraft and the Senator? Only Democrats.

Close crucial race saved by a sympathy candidate, who benefits?

This conspiricy theory stuff is fun. No wonder you Lefties like it so much...

Oh, and your preoccupation with monkeys borders on the obscene...

Actually Wellstone was WAAAAAY ahead in the polls and was a major target of the Bush/Cheney junta.

http://www.thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=128

Monkeys are fun! I have several on a leash
and they entertain me.
Sorry if you can't understand.
Mondale does suck in comparison to somrone who
posessed a stiffer spine than most of the corporate
lap dancers now sucking up to the criminal elites.

Did the Dictator blow Wellstone's plane out of the air?

The circumstances of the plane crash are pointing to the White House again, as government officials search the suspicious crash site. First, who has the capablity to shoot down a jet?? Or the motive? It all points to CIA Dictator Bush & Cheney.

If we looking for conspirators, Bush is high on the list, much higher than a Terrorist. It is no secret he hated Wellstone's guts, him and his father. Wellstone was the most feared Democrat in Washington, who would have eaisly sweep the election. Paul Wellstone was their number one target this year. It was a "personal" vendetta on the part of the White House, political pundits confirmed. Wellstone was, as Papa Bush so crudely labeled him, a "little chickenshit" to the Bush cartel.

Only the burned tail section of the private plane was still intact, Carol Carmody, acting chairwoman of the National Transportation Safety Board said Saturday. Everything else was destroyed. How convenient, and sure sign that more than a plane crash was at work here.

"It's a complicated site, very marshy, lots of trees," Carmody said. "It takes us time to sort through the evidence." So even in a wet marshy area an entire plane evaporates down to a tail section?? No Way!!

It appeared the engines were powered when the plane went down, but it likely will take weeks to determine why the twin-engine Beech King Air A100 crashed, Carmody said. She said there was no cockpit voice recorder. A twin engine plane under power does not just lose both engines in midair, no way. Now they claim there was not a black box, how convenient of Bush's inspectors. And it happened so quickly that the pilot had no time to radio a tower or give a location or say he was experiencing flight problems. Something is up here.

And in an unusual move the media reported "freezing rain/drizzle but doppler radar shows the area as clear." And the crash site is only two miles from the airport, not enough time to ice any wings. Why would they need to lie?

Did Bush & Cheney hate and fear Sen. Wellstone so much that they blew his craft out of the air? A lot it at stake in this election for the man who wants to be Americas first dictator. Bush will try and say it was a terrorist attack, you can bet on that.

Motive and opportunity my man, motive and opportunity. Both sides have the former, but only one had the latter.

I still think his death was an accident, but my how well the funeral, er, political rally was orchestrated after the fact. Had the stench of premeditation....

Oh, and free network time during a political campaign? Priceless.

There is no reason to think that the criminal junta currently in power has any scruples at all. They've proven at least once a week that they have none.

About this "conspiracy" crap. The point about "conspiracy reality' is a good one. But the word is out of place here. A guy hates his next door neighbor so much that one day he goes off the deep end and puts poison in his well. That's an assassination, it's not a conspiracy. Let's not use the word unecessarily, as it only provides fodder for the aggressively naive who think everything is always an accident.

At first I resisted the notion that the plane crash could have been other than an accident. However, the accumulation of facts has been troubling.

One of the first "eyewitness" interviews was of a local who had seen the plane coming down. He first became aware of it because of what he heard. He said he heard was sounded like a gun going off and immediately thought about hunters in the area.

This would suggest that the catastrophe began with some kind of explosion. Note that all later news reports edited these comments out of the broadcast.

Also, one of the first officials on the scene said unequivocally, that there was a "sudden, catastrophic event" which caused the plane to come down. This also was not replayed.

The plane essentially nose-dived, according to the crash pattern. Both propellers were still working, and dug into the ground.

The tail of the plane was split in half and broke away from the rest of the structure.

Have you noticed how planes never used to mysteriously explode, and now it is becoming a common occurrence? Fuel lines--yeah, right.

Edward Kennedy was accompanying Wellstone that day, and it might well have been expected that he would have been on the plane, except for Wellstone's decision to leave a for scheduled debate early. That information alone is unsettling.

Finally, Wellstone had just jumped ahead in the polls. Although the national news was reporting a seven or eight point lead, local polls only hours old were showing a strong surge to ten points. It was clear that Wellstone was pulling out ahead and was on the road to victory.

I remember when Robert Kennedy died. He had also just pulled out ahead in the polls, only hours before the assassination. It had just become obvious that he was not going to be stopped at the ballot box. Instead he was stopped by less savory methods.

Was Wellstone assassinated? It would take a mountain of evidence to assure me otherwise. Who did it? Well, that is the question we should really be examining.

The Democrats are killing their own to win close elections with sympathy votes. Who won the seat when Carnahan died? Democrats. Who now leads in the poles in the Wellstone race; where they once did not? Democrats.

Republicans would not want to kill one that they are beating. The trade for death and sympathy votes is one a fanatical Daschle would desire.

Geffords/Kennedy/Carnahan/Torricelli/and now Wellstone.

Ask yourself who is benefitting and you find the culprit.

I was at the Pacifica Radio office and heard a concall (seemingly private) thet Hillary Clinton is being investigated as Paul Wellstone's assassion. She had him killed to assure that VicePresident Mondale will win, as Paul Wellstone was likely going to get beat

I know Radio Pacifica is at the hub of all
that is known (ahem) but this is total 2nd
hand information. I've been wrong before
but this doesn't smell right somehow.
I heard it from someone on Bravenet that
Bush Admirer has a brain. Let's wait and
see.

Republicans are mean but sober-minded; Democrats are dopey but kind.

There's no need to dwell or expand on these stereotypes because everyone knows they exist. Everyone also knows that while there's certainly a kernel of truth to the stereotype, its utility in dealing with actual people in the real world isn't all that useful. After all, we've all met some achingly dumb Republicans and some astoundingly bitter and nasty Democrats. But at the national level, these stereotypes are useful for defining the broad differences between the so-called mommy and daddy parties. And, from that perspective, the Democrats on display at Paul Wellstone's memorial service represented everything I personally find distasteful, disagreeable, and downright disgusting about the Democratic party (and for similar reasons, I have no doubt that this column will represent much of what Democrats find unpleasant about conservatives).

Let's just get the obligatory, though sincere, caveat out of the way. I respected Paul Wellstone. He was by all accounts a decent person in his private life and honorable in his public one. He inspired loyalty from his colleagues and respect from his opponents. His death — and the deaths of the others in that plane crash — were certainly tragic.

Everyone, Republicans and Democrats alike, say that Wellstone's most-admirable quality was that he was a tireless worker for what he believed in. That's fine. Doggedness and determination are wonderful things when in the pursuit of the noble and good. But, it should be remembered that doggedness and determination alone aren't necessarily admirable qualities. Serial killers and murderous dictators are also dogged in their determination to see their wills done. Hitler prioritized trainloads of Jews bound for death camps ahead of needed trainloads of war materiel bound for the front in his dogged pursuit of what he considered to be right. Saddam Hussein chooses not to feed his people and risk war thanks to his willingness to stick to his convictions.

Now, it would be wrong to compare Paul Wellstone to Hitler or Hussein and I am not doing that. What I am doing is pointing out that conviction without a moral context or motor is merely a white-knuckled grip on an idea without paying heed to what you grip or why. After all, grabbing a sword by the handle is wise, grabbing it by the blade is folly, and normally we do not think the fingerless fool is as proficient as the swordsman and we do not judge the man who uses the sword for murder to be as good as the man who uses the sword to prevent it.

This distinction is not only lost on the Democrats, but they actually celebrate their ignorance of it as a defining virtue of their party. In 2000, Hillary Clinton successfully convinced voters that the campaign should be over "who is more concerned about the issues New Yorkers care about" and not about such petty issues as ideas or qualifications. In other words, the question is not over who is right or wrong, but over who has the stronger feelings. In the Democrats' world, we would choose a plumber over a surgeon to transplant our kidneys so long as the plumber "passionately believed" that your surgery should go well and the surgeon was blasé about it."

Not only is this ideological obsession with passion intellectually insipid, the Democrats lack both the imagination and the intellectual consistency to praise it in their opponents. When first elected, Paul Wellstone bragged that he "despised" Jesse Helms but also that he wanted be known as "the liberal Jesse Helms" — and the liberals loved him for it. But this aspiration was hypocritical on its face since it was Helms's tenacity as much as his ideology that liberals so detested.

Indeed, liberals consider "inflexibility" on the part of conservatives to be at the core of their evilness. When the quintessential Democratic intellectual, Anthony Lewis, retired — finally — from the New York Times he revealed his one great insight into the nature of man. In what was arguably one of the most staggeringly idiotic comments ever offered in the New York Times, Lewis said that "certainty" was "the enemy of decency and humanity in people who are sure they are right, like Osama bin Laden and John Ashcroft."

Now, like finding a steamer trunk full of inane and offensive knickknacks, one could spend all day unpacking the profane obtuseness of this assertion. But, suffice it to say, if liberals like Lewis truly believe "certainty" is the enemy of "decency and humanity" then they would have to add Wellstone — and Teddy Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Martin Luther King Jr., and many other gods of the Democratic pantheon — to their list of overly "certain" monsters as well, right alongside bin Laden and John Ashcroft.

It is obviously true that Paul Wellstone fought tenaciously for what he believed in. But it is also true that if he'd been successful in everything he wanted to accomplish, this country would be inarguably the worse for it. Any politician can fight for a better world, indeed most of them think they are. Just because Wellstone was more convinced of his rightness than many of his colleagues doesn't make him a better senator and it doesn't transform his many bad ideas into good ones.

THE CLINTONCRATS
I have my own theory as to why Democrats celebrate "passionate intensity," as Yeats would say, so much. Intellectually, the old liberal project is exhausted. Its arguments do not persuade, its numbers do not add up, its aims no longer seem achievable or worth the costs required. But some liberals, many of them hobbled by nostalgia, refuse to believe that this is true. They loved the romance and excitement of the New Deal or the Great Society so much, that they continue to sit in a nearly empty theater refusing to believe that the movie's over — even though the credits have rolled and the lights have come on. It's just an intermission, they insist. The second half will be even better — just you wait and see!

And because theirs is a romantic vision of "what could be," they continue to treat has-beens as movie idols — which is why it is so fitting that they replace the "new voice" of Paul Wellstone with the quavering tones of Walter Mondale, whose speeches almost sound as if they contain the pops and skips of a worn-out LP album. As we'd already seen in New Jersey, the Democratic bench is deep with old men who still fit into their uniforms but have no place on the field.

Sure, it makes sense that the Democratic mascot is a donkey, a stubborn beast that will not move toward progress, even when the progress is for its own good. But an even-better symbol would be of the doctor who gives CPR to a corpse. That is why liberals who, for example, "work tirelessly" for nationalized healthcare are such heroes, even though many liberals don't want or wouldn't use such a system if it arrived. That is why Bill Clinton was so successful with liberals when he whined, "I've been working so hard." As with his wife's supporters, his base cared less about the ideas than his concern for them.

But it should be noted that unlike Hillary, Bill Clinton was no Wellstone liberal. Bill cared about power and attention and he played on the emotions of his base to get both. Wellstone was indeed about principle and he used power and attention to advance it. That is why it made so much sense for Bill Clinton to be in the audience of that repugnant rally they called a memorial service. Like some perverse "Where's Waldo" drawing, wherever large groups of Democrats congregate, you know if you can find Bill Clinton in the picture they will behave like jackasses.

That is what was so offensive about that rally: It shamelessly used Wellstone's death for partisan advantage while its organizers cynically accused their opponents of doing precisely that. Blaming others for something awful you've done is perhaps the defining attribute of Bill Clinton and his legacy on the Democratic party. Wellstone did many good things out of principle — including work with Jesse Helms, a man he grew to befriend, on human rights in China. But he will now be invoked by Democrats everywhere simply to get out the vote, beat up Republicans, and raise millions of dollars in campaign contributions.

In short, so long as they hold onto the Senate, the Clinton Democrats — who often found Wellstone's principles inconvenient — will find him more useful dead than alive. They will rewrite the story of his life to fit any cause they choose — much as they have done with other Democratic martyrs like John and Robert Kennedy (a Cold War anti-Communist and the attorney general who personally authorized the bugging of Martin Luther King, respectively). Wellstone's distinctiveness and honesty will melt in a warm pool of mass-marketed nostalgia. And, if Republicans complain, Democrats will simply charge insensitivity and laugh all the way to the bank.

But don't mind me, I'm just being mean, like a typical Republican.

Most of the useless stooges in congress are laughing
in their air conditioned limos all the way to the bank.
With their non public approved raises, free healthcare that is denied to the rest of their constituents and the box of
perversions available at demand. They make laws they are
not subject to. They rant about values they don't possess
or practice. They freely disregard the will of the common people while catering to the money which put them into office. Both parties are controlled by the same funding sources. Labeling them as different obscures the fact
that they serve their true masters, not us.

Republicans aren't mean but sober. They're emotional. They "act out". Sober? Anything but. The people who they get most of their votes from breathe alcohol, not air.

I never thought I'd be a conspiracy theorist, but Senator Wellstone's death has me wondering. His was THE test case that would prove a strong stand against Bush's Iraq resolution did not result in a lost election. In fact, just prior to his death he had solidified a lead over Norm Coleman.

Also, the weather involved extremely light freezing rain or snow. The pilots were both Minnesotans. A little freezing rain to us is nothing. Our school bus drivers can handle over 6" of fresh snow. Our preschools have recess unless it's below zero! So no, I don't think it was the weather. Why was his plane headed AWAY from the Eveleth airport? Why didn't the pilots communicate any trouble?

Is it "common" for this to happen to politicians? Well, when I look over the list of politicians killed in plane crashes I see a lot of Democrats, especially those in tight races. Perhaps Democrats are more likely to fly in cheaper, smaller, more dangerous planes. Maybe Democrats are more likely to fly to remote areas of their states (where they meet and speak with actual poor people!). Maybe. But if these were accidents, wouldn't the law of averages have at least 1/3 of that list be Republicans?

One pilot in the Northern Minnesota area has spoken about the sudden, unpredictable appearance of birds-of-prey and waterfowl, and the danger they present to small aircraft. Possible.

I do believe there are sneaky, evil Right-Wingers who would do anything to gain and hold power. I wouldn't put this past them. I won't call these thoughts conspiracy theories, but we all have to question authority, question the media, and keep our eyes and ears open. Don't abdicate your thinking to anyone, right or left. A full, independent investigation is certainly called-for.

Before you dismiss me as another radical lefty, hear this. I'm a cookie-baking, happily married, community volunteering, tax-paying, full-time at home Mom with a rather traditional, provincial lifestyle. The kind of progressive voter Republicans like to think doesn't exist.

Regarding his memorial, is was anything but orchestrated. The controversial speaker was a volunteer treasurer and personal friend of the Wellstones. Organizers of the event described his as a soft-spoken man who had NEVER spoken publicly before. In our Minnesota papers, they apologize completely for his partisan comments. The speaker was angry and grieving. Even prominent MN Republicans are asking their party and the media to "let it be". We all know that had the shoe been on the other foot, the Republicans would have behaved in a similar fashion, but perhaps with more flags in view.

Paul Wellstone was my hero.

A grieving Minnesotan

I never thought I'd be a conspiracy theorist, but Senator Wellstone's death has me wondering. His was THE test case that would prove a strong stand against Bush's Iraq resolution did not result in a lost election. In fact, just prior to his death he had solidified a lead over Norm Coleman.

Also, the weather involved extremely light freezing rain or snow. The pilots were both Minnesotans. A little freezing rain to us is nothing. Our school bus drivers can handle over 6" of fresh snow. Our preschools have recess unless it's below zero! So no, I don't think it was the weather. Why was his plane headed AWAY from the Eveleth airport? Why didn't the pilots communicate any trouble?

Is it "common" for this to happen to politicians? Well, when I look over the list of politicians killed in plane crashes I see a lot of Democrats, especially those in tight races. Perhaps Democrats are more likely to fly in cheaper, smaller, more dangerous planes. Maybe Democrats are more likely to fly to remote areas of their states (where they meet and speak with actual poor people!). Maybe. But if these were accidents, wouldn't the law of averages have at least 1/3 of that list be Republicans?

One pilot in the Northern Minnesota area has spoken about the sudden, unpredictable appearance of birds-of-prey and waterfowl, and the danger they present to small aircraft. Possible.

I do believe there are sneaky, evil Right-Wingers who would do anything to gain and hold power. I wouldn't put this past them. I won't call these thoughts conspiracy theories, but we all have to question authority, question the media, and keep our eyes and ears open. Don't abdicate your thinking to anyone, right or left. A full, independent investigation is certainly called-for.

Before you dismiss me as another radical lefty, hear this. I'm a cookie-baking, happily married, community volunteering, tax-paying, full-time at home Mom with a rather traditional, provincial lifestyle. The kind of progressive voter Republicans like to think doesn't exist.

Regarding his memorial, is was anything but orchestrated. The controversial speaker was a volunteer treasurer and personal friend of the Wellstones. Organizers of the event described his as a soft-spoken man who had NEVER spoken publicly before. In our Minnesota papers, they apologize completely for his partisan comments. The speaker was angry and grieving. Even prominent MN Republicans are asking their party and the media to "let it be". We all know that had the shoe been on the other foot, the Republicans would have behaved in a similar fashion, but perhaps with more flags in view.

Paul Wellstone was my hero.

A grieving Minnesotan

Mysterium

Mount not far off marching boots!
Hail not the unctuous, Texan princes!
Born dry, resolute, and smiling lot
Vain hearts, presumed new order.

Farewell Liberty's dove, die and spit unsung
Hello unwelcome Legion, veiled multitude and count
Our bastard spawn, public apostles, ministers aloof
Cousins to our slothful slumber.

Where is our trumpet, our solitary soldier?
Fallen on a dark wood, frozen forever?
O solid stone! pitched from a sunless sky
He cast thee to the well, never to be drawn again?

Lift knee, scale elected wall,
Set foot upon his rock, sure step
As he who strode twelve times with us,
Must we with him declare:

Nevermore to such unmindful sleep,
Much more than we can see,
A brother's stumble to prevent
Is our sweet Liberty!

Hickory Dickory Dock,
Wellstone is dead as shit.
Haaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa

http://www.hobbsonline.blogspot.com/2002_10_01_hobbsonline_archive.html";>Check this out. It makes a plausible case.

http://www.hobbsonline.blogspot.com/2002_10_01_hobbsonline_archive.html

And I don't think it's a parody. I think it is only claiming to be a parody in order to make the truth more palatable. Once people realize how plausible it is, they'll realize it isn't a parody.

Here is the right hyperlink. Sorry 'bout that.

http://www.hobbsonline.blogspot.com/2002_10_01_hobbsonline_archive.html#83783699

I believe the article in the above link had some good
information in it, but blaming some smuck, doesn't involve the mechanics and coordination, of that hit.
The devil's in the details.

You guys are nuts, I was in the area on the day of the crash at my cabin and personally talked to many of the people in town that worked the scene, were at the airport, etc. and no one heard any shot, I know for sure myself that it was sleeting at the time, the news reports even showed that, I suppose the news added that in latter. The explainations have been put out, just not confirmed. all along ice on the wings has been the main cause. if you put a any ice on those wings the plane will not aerodynamically fly, it will just fall. so of course the props will be spinning fast as it tries to pull up. also that BS about kennedy traveling with him is crap since Wellstone was on his way to a funeral, how many of you have freinds tag along to funerals?

Being concerned about how the crash happened is legit, making up lies to further questions is disrespectful to the late senator. PS Norm Colman had turned his ads to a softer tone in the last week, and was gaining on wellstone the last poll before his death was a dead heat, verified by the Star and tribune and St. paul Pioneer press. So you fakers not from MN are full of it. Why kill a Wellstone when there were CA senators that were much further ahead? 2 hours after the crash reports that Wellstones son contacted VP Mondale to take his place, maybe it was the dems that needed him dead. Mondale had a 10pt lead before he announced, if it weren't for the sham funeral that the VP was asked not to show up for and Republicans were booed at, where the Dems had a big political rally, Mondale would have won. But I suppose Mr kahn was a Republican setup. Get over it and quit making up lies

As a Republican Pilot and a christian, I would have to say yes we do! The master clearly sees what is going on. Have a nice Day... God Bless