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Value Women's Work ! Value Women's Lives ! 8/15/00

by geoff oliver-bugbee Wednesday, Aug. 16, 2000 at 9:02 PM
geo@mcn.org

Rainy Demerson of San Jose, California joined 600 women and supporters on Tuesday morning as they marched through the streets of Los Angeles.

Value Women's Work !...
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right on

by wish i were there Wednesday, Aug. 16, 2000 at 10:08 PM

beautiful picture, right on cause.
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What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

by An Observer Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 5:33 AM

Oh my god...pleeeeeeeeze tell me you mean welfare as in health, long life, good jobs and equality.....not an unearned government paycheck. If you can't afford to feed children, dont give birth to them. We know how to prevent pregnancy and as long as we continue to take no personal responsibility for our actions, and life, we are no better than the people we are complaining about, who pollute, destroy, and fail to see the big picture before they reach for profits. I am proud to be self sufficient financially, and I did not have any one sending me to college, paying my rent, feeding my kids for me, and in fact come from a socio/economic challenged background. I just worked hard, made good choices and earned both respect and my success, such as it is. NOBODY owes me a living and I couldn't respect myself if I thought they did. How far do you want women to sink? We are not the weaker sex unless we allow ourselves to believe (and men to convince us) we have to rely on a man, government, system, partner, whatever to succeed in life. God that photo makes me sick!
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in response to What?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

by Sylvia Hayes Thursday, Aug. 17, 2000 at 2:37 PM
rshayes@mail.com 616-434-6571 50028 8th Ave. Grand Junction, MI

in response to What?!?!?!?!?!?!?! by An Observer 8:33am Wed Aug 16 '00

As long as there are others like her out there the upper class will never have to come down and face the people at the bottom. We all do a pretty good job of policing each other. And for whom?????

I think it is about time that this side of the issue was addressed. We send people out to work at little better than minimum wage, and then we want their children raised without problems to society. We give them senseless jobs, whether that be working in a fast food restaurant, or working for a place that sells party favors. Don't get me wrong I am a firm believer in a womans right to become anything she wants, after all I wouldn't to give up my female primary physician, no way. But I do think pushing all women out to work has gone too far.
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response to what?!

by john burke Friday, Aug. 18, 2000 at 3:19 PM
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"If you don't want to..." What if you already did? What if you did, and the father left, or was abusive, or died? What "smart choices" do you make then? An "unearned" check--isn't raising kids work? Doesn't it deserve compensation?
That comment comes from someone who has no concept of solidarity. The picture is great, the slogan is right. People have a right to *live*, whether some corporation happens to find them useful at any given moment or not. And kids have a right to a mom and a life. Sure we know how to prevent pregnancy. But *retroactively*?
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response to "WHat???!!"

by anna Saturday, Aug. 19, 2000 at 8:43 AM
jolenejolene

in response to the comments "WHat??!!"
i think that to demand access to a social safety net for all women cannot be criticised, within a current system that denies most women proper access to a vocation that will sustain them and their families, and considers giving birth grounds for discrimination and vilification.

you are endorsing the view that if women are to support their families, they should be made to fight, rather than have the right, to do so.

your experience of achieving this, without assistance, is inspiring to the many women who must.
however, whilst re-structuring the way women may recieve their share of our plentiful resources here in the West, we musn't abandon those who cannot, or choose not, to work outside the home, ontop of their shamefully devalued work inside the home.
welfare recipients have been demonised by the government and the press. don't join in the witch-hunt, try something more positive, like acting in support of other women, rather than attacking them.
welfare is not a dirty word, when it comes from the mouth of a single mother with three kids and a mortgage (and please stop moralising about somebody elses circumstances you might not understand, just because you're a mum too).
if u buy that shit, then maybe u should start hearing between the lines of the next right-wing diatribe you listen to on talk-radio.
and it seems other women agree. right on girls
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Welfare

by Mike Huff Wednesday, Aug. 23, 2000 at 2:54 PM

Maybe she could use some of that welfare money to buy a Bic razor for those underarms.
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Response to Welfare underarms

by jen Sunday, Sep. 10, 2000 at 8:57 AM

I'd like to know in what way Mr. Huff's comment that the woman in the picture use welfare money to buy razorblades to shave her pits forwards any activist or social cause, as mandated by the purpose of this web page? It does not. It is a personal attack on the woman in the picture and is merely spiteful and woman-hating. Socially/male-mandated shaving by women is part of the systems of oppression of women, where we are kept infantilized (only prebubescent humans have no underarm hair) and socially coerced to alter our bodies in numerous ways to serve men's need to feel older, wiser, bigger, and stronger than women. Whether by dieting to curb the natural size and weight of our bodies, shaving to alter the normal places where hair grows, or using cosmetics to alter the normal look of the skin on our faces, we are expected to maintain in our physical appearance the concept that we are less mature (read less strong, competent, important) and are decorative and are not here on this earth to live comfortably in our own bodies for ourselves but for the entertainment and service of men.
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